Sam's Club: No artifacts will go into site
by Megan Nichols
Staff Writer
Jul 17, 2009 | 4614 views | 21 21 comments | 82 82 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Sam's Club investigated Oxford's American Indian mound controversy and concluded that historical artifacts aren't located on its site, a letter from a company spokeswoman says. [read letter]

That information comes as no surprise, as the historical site in question isn't on the proposed Sam's Club location — it's on a hill behind it.

Company spokeswoman Susan Koehler wrote the letter in response to an e-mail from Charlotte, N.C., resident Beth Walters.

Koehler sent the letter to Walters, along with several news outlets and other people.

Attempts to reach Sam's for comment were unsuccessful.

Walters said Thursday she doesn't remember how she found out about the Oxford debate, but that it concerned her.

"I was flabbergasted that anybody would just be going in and taking down a mound of historical value," she said.

Oxford, through its Commercial Development Authority, hired a company to take down the hill behind the proposed Sam's Club location and use it for fill dirt.

But experts say American Indians built a mound on top of the hill at least 1,000 years ago.

Harry Holstein, Jacksonville State University professor of anthropology and archaeology, says it could contain human remains.

A University of Alabama report on the site found no evidence of burials. It found pottery shards and chert, a hard rock used to make tools.

Local American Indians have protested destroying the site. City officials say the site is being left alone, for now.

While Oxford officials have said the Sam's Club is a done deal, the letter from Koehler says the company is "currently reviewing the site to determine whether it is feasible for proposed development of a new location."

Throughout the letter, Koehler refers to the "proposed Sam's Club site."

She writes that Sam's Club hired a geotechnical engineer to test the materials on the site and adjacent to it. The engineer found no materials from the archaeological site on the property.

Koehler also points out that Sam's Club does not own any of the property in question.

She writes that the company has the "highest degree of respect for all cultural and historical monuments."

Walters, who is a former journalist and has worked in public relations, said Sam's Club's response disappointed her.

"It's self-protective, boilerplate," she said. "It does express concern, but makes sure to say they aren't the owner."

Efforts to reach Oxford officials Thursday failed.
comments (21)
« snow_cookies@Yahoo.com wrote on Wednesday, Jul 22 at 03:12 PM »
Thanks Laurie! I have posted your link on a very active site where people have promised to write City Hall.

Going to go check out your link. :)
« snow_cookies@Yahoo.com wrote on Monday, Jul 20 at 08:27 PM »
lauriech --- that's a very good link you posted. I suggest that everyone go take a look at it and read the facts.

Someone mentioned to me last week that there was "a very nice letter" from Sam's in the paper. It's a letter full of double speak and twisted truths.

Here is the link she posted in case anyone missed it..

http://walmartwatch.com/img/documents/native_americans_fact_sheet.pdf
« snow_cookies@Yahoo.com wrote on Saturday, Jul 18 at 08:05 AM »
Thanks lazy/donkey. I am not trying to start any bad feelings here, there is enough of that in the destruction of the mound.
« snow_cookies@Yahoo.com wrote on Saturday, Jul 18 at 08:03 AM »
There you go, "no one it the Old Testament were Christians." That's what I am saying. So that when people here call American Indians heathens.. they were implying that we don't go to a heaven or reward in the afterlife either, and are not deserving of having our holy place untouched.
« snow_cookies@Yahoo.com wrote on Saturday, Jul 18 at 07:07 AM »
My Mother and I drove by the mound site yesterday afternoon. It made us both sick in our hearts to see the condition of that sacred place. They might say that they are not using dirt from the hill.. so why does it look so battle weary and forlorn? Oh, it's because THEY TOOK DIRT FROM THE HILL! In fact, there was a large piece of dirt moving equipment up there, on the far side of the mountain, away from the side that can be seen from the road. My Mother is 83 and that site made her cry to see how it's been destroyed. Just compare the photos seen in the Anniston Star. Almost all the trees are gone from the crest of the hill. If you remove the dirt from around and under the mound.... guess what? Or does that have to be meticulously pointed out as well?
« snow_cookies@Yahoo.com wrote on Saturday, Jul 18 at 06:59 AM »
Mom and I were over at the hill yesterday. They are still removing dirt/fill from that mountain. There was something going on, over on the far side of the mountain, away from the side that faces the road. It's a sickening site to see how much of that mountain is gone. Even if they don't actually remove "the mound".. if they take everything around it and under it, it will be destroyed. If you yank someone's foundation out from under them, they will fall. Think about THAT. It made my 83 year old Mother cry to see what has been done to that sacred place.
« snow_cookies@Yahoo.com wrote on Saturday, Jul 18 at 06:55 AM »
That's not the point. He was not a Christian. Think about it.
« louise.dover@gmail.com wrote on Friday, Jul 17 at 10:06 PM »
(Please pardon the re-post, but I didn't want my comment to be anonymous. Apparently, even though the website SAID I was logged in, I guess I wasn't.)

So, none of the property owned by Sam's involves the disputed hill. Great! Debate over! Now Sam's can go forward with their store and the Indians can have their hill. Wish everything was that simple!
« anonymous wrote on Friday, Jul 17 at 09:58 PM »
So, none of the property owned by Sam's involves the disputed hill. Great! Debate over! Now Sam's can go forward with their store and the Indians can have their hill. Wish everything was that simple!
« snow_cookies@Yahoo.com wrote on Friday, Jul 17 at 05:33 PM »
King David was not a Christian.... sheesh...
« mhoyt34@hotmail.com wrote on Friday, Jul 17 at 08:43 AM »
Jim Statin...

What the heck are you spouting? I suppose you also think that humans have only been on the earth for 6000 years and the dinosaurs lived alongside them? Science does not prove anything, rather it disproves.

And another thing... I am very proud of my Cherokee heritage. If being a "heathen" is honoring my heritage and ancestors and culture, then I will be a proud card carrying heathen.

Big Jim, your wagon has lost its load.
« anonymous wrote on Friday, Jul 17 at 08:28 AM »
It would be safe for me to say that I will pay Sams $100.00 if I can't find some artifacts on the site.
« LucyRunOver@yahoo.com wrote on Friday, Jul 17 at 06:40 AM »
JimStatin,

What in the world are you talking about? From an Indian mound to talking about diabetics???? Where do you get off telling anyone that they are not a Christian if they have a disease? Who do you think you are?

I'm sure that God doesn't need your help in choosing who are the better Christians, that is for him to decide and him alone.

You worry about your own soul and let God handle everyone else.

« wanbleenagi1@yahoo.com wrote on Thursday, Jul 16 at 09:49 PM »
Big Jim and Anon, are you really this ignorant or just plain stupid. First of all Anon I worked for this so called Christian Corp. (Wal-Mart). The so called family company and only sell American. Think again. I worked for them during the time they were caught using sweatshops and using elementary aged children. Also family oriented? Think again. They don't mind just letting you go for no good reason. Several years ago I had to have surgery for cancer and I was told my job was secure. Ha Ha. When I went back to work I had no job. I went to get my unemployment and received it for one month when the family came in and had it stopped. Now for you Big Jim. I'll tell my devout Christian Grandmother that she's not a Christian after all. She has diabetis. I had polio, cancer, and I have arthritis. So I guess I'm not a Christian either. Oh, by the way, here's another double whammy for you. We are Native American. Also, you like reciting the Bible verses. Well in there it talks about and I learned during confirmation classes how Jesus healed the blind, deaf and crippled. I don't recall him saying they weren't Christian and turn away from them. Also the ones he did banish were the ones at the Market Place. They weren't blind, deaf or crippled. They were the non-Christians. Theives, drug addicts, prostitutes, etc. Even those he would help convert if they were willing. I don't know where you get your information, but you better take another look at the Bible you read and not take it out of context. If this was just to make people mad you did your job. It's small minded people like you that Companies like Sam's Club, Wal-Mart (especially) and others can do what they want because you will be there to praise them and do all you can to help them. Before opening mouth and inserting foot, do your homework!!!! Oh, there are no Indian Witch Doctors, got you ethnic groups mixed up. Not surprised. Also to both of you. You think it's alright to just disturb these mounds right? Well there is magic to them so don't get over confident. I think the next Company to build should look into your local cemetaries or maybe even Arlington. Don't you agree. They're only bones. If I were you I'd say a prayer and ask for forgiveness for your sins. Ye who without sin cast the first stone.
« tinahorn@bellsouth.net wrote on Thursday, Jul 16 at 09:47 PM »
WOW where did all that come from with the diabetics?? that was really out there....insulin is not made of murdered children....how in the world and wow thats about it .. yack yack yack... you make no sense!
« Ronald Terrell wrote on Thursday, Jul 16 at 09:07 PM »
Big Jim Statin, Jesus healed the sick and has given man the knowledge to combat disease . I don't believe there's a ban on insulin forthcoming nor has it got anything to do with the subject matter. No mounds of bone should be kept nearby you say . Who are you to say? If all we need is Jesus and his healing power then why stress yourself over a ban on insulin? I see the anonymous coward is still posting offensive "heathen" rhetoric and I agree that maybe Sam's doesn't have any control over the source of fill dirt but the city and State of Alabama do.
« setsail98@hotmail.com wrote on Thursday, Jul 16 at 08:37 PM »
Well, somebody just got up on the wrong side of the bed!
« Big Jim Statin wrote on Thursday, Jul 16 at 07:35 PM »
The mound controversy is small compared to what i just found out...Praise His Name

No indian witch doctor can cure you of your sins no mounds of bones should be kept nearby...All we need is Jesus and His healing power...but I heard that Obama will soon be baning insulin due to some satanic plan:

"Republicans vote to ban insulin! Take that Diabetics!

A group of Republican Senators have introduced the Brownback-Landrieu hybrid cloning ban. Proud sponsors and cosigners include Senators Jim Bunning (R-KY), Tom Coburn (R-OK), John Cornyn (R-TX), John Ensign (R-NV), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), James Inhofe (R-OK), John McCain (R-AZ), and David Vitter (R-LA) among others."

Among the many benefits of this bill is that it would ban artificial insulin:

Wikipedia: Humulin is the brand name for a group of human insulin products, originally developed by Genentech in 1978 (Generic name insulin isophane)...Humulin is synthesized in a laboratory strain of Escherichia coli bacteria which has been genetically altered to produce human insulin.

Some say this is actually an unintended consequence, but consider that Sonia Sotomayer is a diabetic.

I say it's about time to have the diabetics pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Just because they're cripples they expect society to sacrifice babies and give scientists the right to create freakish frankenstien man-bear-pigs on their behalf!

Let's take a look at what the Bible says about cripples:

"Who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?" -- Exodus 4:11

Got that, diabetics? You're diabetic because GOD chose to make you diabetic. Why? As a punishment for failing to obey the Old Testement's laws: "The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart." -- Deuteronomy 28:28

So quit trying to cure yourself by injecting murdered children into your veins!

King David, a good Christian role model from the Bible, hated cripples so much he wanted them killed:

"And David said on that day, Whosoever ... smiteth ... the blind that are hated of David's soul, he shall be chief and captain. Wherefore they said, The blind and the lame shall not come into the house." -- 2 Samuel 5:8

Well, why not? An eye for an eye, and a life for a life, and diabetics have murdered a lot of babies over the years.

"Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries." -- Leviticus 21:17-23

God says cripples "profane" our "sanctuaries". Letting a cripple like Sonia Sotomayor into the Supreme Court will profane the Supreme Court!

No True Christians have diabetes because True Christians know that the only way to cast out the demons of diabetes is prayer.

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« 123@easystreet.com wrote on Thursday, Jul 16 at 05:59 PM »
Anon,

My first thought was, this is just some local who is having fun. Sort of like you were just trying to provoke the people who think the Mound was sacred. But then, I thought again and decided that you feel as most of us do.

You are just pointing out the ludicracy (hope that is a word) of the mindset of this community.

I have to say, I agree.

Regards,

« setsail98@hotmail.com wrote on Thursday, Jul 16 at 05:54 PM »
Anon

You are one goofy individual. I think you just write to antagonize people because you sure could not be a Christian.

Jesus weeps indeed... for you!