Rep. Rogers and Mr. Hyde
by The Anniston Star Editorial Board
Aug 05, 2009 | 2097 views | 22 22 comments | 12 12 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Congressman Mike Rogers is one of those pragmatic office holders more interested in solving problems and improving the lives of the people he represents than peddling the destructive arguments of ideologues and engaging in the tactics of "no" at any cost. [View video]

Yet, who do we see before the U.S. House chamber a few days ago, giving a one-minute speech on health care? It looks like Mike Rogers, and the voice, well, there is that certain east Alabama, touch of the hills, accent we are familiar with. But this can't be the Mike Rogers we know, for this man is shrill, delivering an angry diatribe aimed at the effort to tackle health-care reform.

To put a particularly foul-smelling garnish atop this un-like Mike speech is a reference, more than once, to the "Democrat majority." Oh, turning this noun into an adjective is a small thing, one the most recent President Bush was so fond of using. But in this era, when the current president is at least attempting to tamp down the rancor, it comes off as cheap and petty.

Massively more important is what our local Mr. Hyde went on to do in the following 45 or so seconds. He proceeded to reinforce fears of pending doom, based on partial truths about health care.

He quibbles with semantics, attacking the verbiage "public-option," preferring to use the words "government-run health-care plan."

That's wasted time, of course. We could have the same discussion about Social Security or Medicaid or Medicare, couldn't we? Call it what you want, just have a substantive discussion and raise legitimate reasons for why it should or should not be part of an overall health-care reform plan. That's what the real Mike Rogers would do.

But this Mike Rogers, for some reason, is trying to rattle you. Frightful days await, he seems to be saying.

We wonder, are the black helicopters of the one-world government far behind?

The other Mr. Rogers pushes on with his philosophy of no.

Take this passage from the mini-speech, excerpted from C-SPAN's Web site: "[The American people] know the Democrat majority proposes to cut costs by rationing care by deciding whether or not you get to go to the doctor, which doctor you get to go to; if you need a specialist, which specialist you need to go to, when you need to go; if you need surgery, when you get to go, if you get to go."

Come now, Mr. Hyde. Is that kind of misleading tactic really necessary? The truth, of course, is that we are still a long way from seeing any kind of bill emerge from Congress. No one, with the possible exception of very large donors from the health-care industry, have much of an idea of where this is going to come down.

The Mike Rogers we know wouldn't be muddying this issue. He would find the important points that legitimately need to be addressed; he would offer constructive criticism of plans offered by Democrats and he would offer some ideas of his own.

That's the guy we know.

Text from the Congressional Record
Mr. ROGERS of Alabama. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to the Democrat majority's government-run health care plan. That is a phrase that the Speaker of the House does not want us to use. She's told us we can't use it in our mail. We're supposed to use the "public option."

Well, to use the word that the President apparently likes, the American people aren't stupid. They know it's government-run health insurance, and they don't want it. They know the Democrat majority proposes to cut costs by rationing care by deciding whether or not you get to go to the doctor, which doctor you get to go to; if you need a specialist, which specialist you need to go to, when you need to go; if you need surgery, when you get to go, if you get to go.

And most importantly, end-of-life care for our seniors. The government wants to decide whether or not certain seniors will get procedures they need to enhance their quality of life and whether or not the computer model determines that that's not the highest and best use of their health care dollars.

American people don't want that. They want real reform just like the Republicans do. We want to have cost control, we want quality, we want access with real reform like tort reform.
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comments (22)
« john.webley@hotmail.com wrote on Thursday, Aug 06 at 05:17 PM »
Tuggy,

You can scoot up to the McClellan Loews next year. It will be a 2-3 minute drive from here.

If we had the Sam's Club it would be great.

And, that's the problem in Anniston. I asked one of the councilmen who was recruiting business in in Anniston. He said, "No one, that's never been discussed." See, you naysayers? That is Anniston's problem. They have everything, population, location, business, schools (oops, sorry), well, you get my meaning, I'm sure.

Tuggy, The Fried Tomato resturant is in Anniston, isn't it? Haven't been there but we will check it out.

Tuggy,

you are a good guy. Take care,
« john.webley@hotmail.com wrote on Thursday, Aug 06 at 03:18 PM »
« tugboatcharlie wrote on Thursday, Aug 06 at 09:21 AM »

Librul, when you get to be our age the old eyesight is not as good as it once was, but i have seen that spot and actually ate there a lot.

Hmmmmmm, was that the Red's Resturant?

I can see it is not nearly as big as at the Oxford Exchange. No where the parking after building it there. Besides look at the area, i would rather drive to the exchange than to that area, of course i live in Oxford and it's closer to my home.

Oh yeah, it is as big as that area at the end of the Oxford Exchange. I live 1.3 miles from the Oxford Exchange, but I drive to the new "better" Loew's at McClellan. Tuggy, I met Billy Graham there. You should check it out! Once they get the Parkway finished, it will just be a skip and jump to get there.

I'm sure the old restaurant site is closer to your home too.

All the Exchange Resturants are closer. I will probably come off as being elitist and condescending to pc and set sail, but I prefer the resturants in downtown Anniston: Classic, Diamond Dave's, err Damn Yankees, Peerless, Victoria, Annistonian, etc. Classic is my favorite. David and Cathy were neighbors a few years ago. They know how to meet the public's wants.

:)
« setsail98@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 10:16 PM »
well said lib
« john.webley@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 10:01 PM »
and that is based on what?
« john.webley@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 09:33 PM »
pc,

I wrote Sam's and told them that an alternative site could be the land across from the new Loew's store on McClellan.

No problems with land there.

« alvinhurst@bellsouth.net wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 07:08 PM »
Lib, just hang on. There should be a Sams that you can go to and buy in bulk.
« john.webley@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 05:43 PM »
Sorry, we have to make an emergency trip to walmart to get some food.

Talk to you later.

Ta Ta

« setsail98@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 05:34 PM »
star writers again hiding in the guise of...... editorial bored?
« alvinhurst@bellsouth.net wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 05:33 PM »
Here is one sight.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/cornyn-to-white-house-quit-col.html
« alvinhurst@bellsouth.net wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 05:23 PM »
Y'all better watch out or bn will turn you in to the White House. They have asked anyone getting an email that is fishy (read disagrees with them) to turn it in to the White House. I don't have a cite but I suspect there will be more comment on this coming out.
« glowb420@yahoo.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 05:00 PM »
bigchump: Liberals are smarter ... there's a scientific study to back it up:

http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-politics10sep10,1,3200056.story

Of course I know how you righties don't have much use for science so you probably won't even read the article.

you're wrong about your assertion though — if there were only conservatives we would have never went to the moon or had the computer you're typing your drivel on.
« john.webley@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 04:55 PM »
bn,

I'm getting credit for your posts!

Oh Well.

« Librul wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 03:25 PM »

————

Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. — John Stuart Mill

"It may not be true that all liberals are dumb, it is true that all liberals are stupid."

By: Big Chief 2 Dogs
« john.webley@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 04:54 PM »
LOL good one Big Chief!

Is that original or did you think it up yourself?

« sbroszell@gmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 03:31 PM »
I would like to see change in the health care system. But I do not want a government run health care system. The programs run by the government now are run badly with gross mismanagement of our tax dollars. What reason is there to think they can run a health care system. NONE. Fix the programs in place now, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, the postal system, the list goes on and on.

Mike Rogers is right on track. You have my vote!
« john.webley@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 03:25 PM »
————

Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. — John Stuart Mill

« alvinhurst@bellsouth.net wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 03:07 PM »
Large insurance companies? LOL! That is the latest talking point. They did a focus group and found that people didn't like what they were using - I think government option so they decided to attack the insurance companies. That is the latest talking point.
« glowb420@yahoo.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 03:05 PM »
maybe you should read the article again setsail. while you're at it read up on why you're wrong about this.

————

Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. — John Stuart Mill
« setsail98@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 03:01 PM »
OMG??? Fear? Read THE BILL DUFUS!

bnwoc4life, Are you a star reporter? h. brandt perhaps?

Again:

No man is exempt from saying silly things; the mischief is to say them deliberately.

Michel de Montaigne

French essayist (1533 - 1592)
« glowb420@yahoo.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 02:31 PM »
Big surprise that the right is resorting to fear-mongering on this issue. It's the only legs they have to stand on with just about any issue these days.

I'm appalled at the level of dishonesty in Rogers' speech. Just about everything he said there was way overblown GOP talking points that have very little basis in reality.

Which side are you people on? The large insurance companies' or the American people's?

That being said, I look forward to these much needed changes to health insurance ... and voting against Mike Rogers!

« setsail98@hotmail.com wrote on Wednesday, Aug 05 at 02:16 PM »
Well said unpc. Rethink some info star?